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| 2003-12-01 00:27 | | huntharo (~huntharo@huntharo.user.msu.edu) has joined. |
| 2003-12-01 00:34 | huntharo | Hey guys, Kaleb says that the xorg tree on freedesktop.org is ready to roll. |
| 2003-12-01 00:35 | | Check out our tree in ViewCVS: http://pdx.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?cvsroot=xorg |
| 2003-12-01 01:09 | zakki | Great. I began to check out now. |
| 2003-12-01 02:34 | huntharo | Cool. |
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| 2003-12-02 05:20 | | flydecker: Hey Chris! |
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| 2003-12-05 11:44 | atari | hi |
| 2003-12-05 11:44 | | is it possible to set a file to 600? |
| 2003-12-05 13:36 | ago | What do you mean with this? chmod 0600 file? |
| 2003-12-05 14:06 | atari | yes. i need rsync.pass. but i have a fat filesystem and i didnt find ntea yet |
| 2003-12-05 18:20 | ago | http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC45 |
| 2003-12-05 18:20 | | Sorry for late answer |
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| 2003-12-06 02:09 | atari | ago1024: i tried that. but i didnt find ntea |
| 2003-12-06 13:54 | ago | atari: ntea is not a program, it's an entry to the CYGWIN environment variable. See http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-env.html for information how to set the variable |
| 2003-12-06 14:38 | atari | ago1024: lets try it out ;) |
| 2003-12-06 14:45 | | ago1024: set CYGWIN=ntea should work? |
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| 2003-12-09 03:53 | huntharo | ago1024: Thanks for working on the tree. |
| 2003-12-09 04:00 | | ago1024, zakki: You two have been busy! |
| 2003-12-09 04:01 | | Kensuke, I didn't realize you had started committing to the freedesktop.org tree. That is great! |
| 2003-12-09 04:03 | | Well guys, I have to work on a take-home final exam, so I will talk to you later. |
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| 2003-12-10 18:43 | | huntharo (~huntharo@office.ixn.com) has joined. |
| 2003-12-10 18:45 | | Hey guys. |
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| 2003-12-11 21:47 | | ago1024: Wow! You have been busy checking in our code to the xorg tree! Thanks! |
| 2003-12-11 21:47 | | ago1024: I didn't expect that you were going to handle synching the entire tree, but it is a great relief to have you do it so that we can move forward. I am very impressed and grateful. |
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| 2003-12-12 04:38 | | Hey guys. |
| 2003-12-12 04:38 | zakki | hello |
| 2003-12-12 04:48 | huntharo | How is the new multi-window mode coming along? When do you want to release it? |
| 2003-12-12 04:54 | zakki | I'm using X sever in CVS and a window maneger I send to ML |
| 2003-12-12 04:58 | | Sometimes I cann't resize emacs. Except for it, I feel it is useful. |
| 2003-12-12 05:01 | | The new rootless mode has window z-order, when use it with window managers like twm |
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| 2003-12-12 05:04 | huntharo_ | Sorry, I got disconnected. huntharo is a zombie. |
| 2003-12-12 05:08 | zakki | Should I repeat? |
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| 2003-12-14 00:41 | nakeee | hi |
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| 2003-12-18 04:44 | zakki | huntharo: Hi Harold |
| 2003-12-18 04:44 | huntharo | zakki: Hey. |
| 2003-12-18 04:46 | zakki | huntharo: I almost done window manager for rootless mode. |
| 2003-12-18 04:47 | huntharo | zakki: Great! I saw that you have been busy checking in changes. |
| 2003-12-18 04:49 | zakki | huntharo: Do I import that to cvs tree? And if so, where? |
| 2003-12-18 04:50 | huntharo | zakki: The window manager? We could store it somewhere... it would probably be best to start another repository on freedesktop.org. What do you think? |
| 2003-12-18 04:50 | zakki | huntharo: Yes |
| 2003-12-18 04:51 | huntharo | zakki: Okay, I am going to be gone for the rest of the week. I will start looking into this... in fact, I will be talking with some people that might be able to help out... so give me a week or so to see if I can get it setup for you. |
| 2003-12-18 04:52 | zakki | huntharo: Thanks in advance |
| 2003-12-18 04:53 | huntharo | zakki: No problem. |
| 2003-12-18 05:20 | | CoolDragon (~welson_su@cust-66-182-74-11.bbsc.net) has joined. |
| 2003-12-18 05:20 | CoolDragon | Hi, is Harold Hunt here? |
| 2003-12-18 05:21 | huntharo | That is me. |
| 2003-12-18 05:21 | CoolDragon | This is Welson |
| 2003-12-18 05:21 | | Nice to meet you |
| 2003-12-18 05:21 | huntharo | Nice to meet you. |
| 2003-12-18 05:22 | CoolDragon | Have you got my latest reply? |
| 2003-12-18 05:22 | huntharo | By the way, I will be in and out of the room. If you write me a message, prefix it with "huntharo: " and I will see my chat window flash and come to the forground, or else I might miss it. |
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| 2003-12-18 21:32 | ago | I have made some updates to the faq. But how can I put them online? |
| 2003-12-18 22:08 | zakki | Commit CVS repositry on sourseforge? I don't know how to update Cygwin/X's web site. |
| 2003-12-18 23:10 | ago | I've already commited it there. I'll ask Harold directly when he can update the homepage. |
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| 2003-12-23 04:44 | zakki | Hi |
| 2003-12-23 04:46 | | I can't post mail to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com |
| 2003-12-23 04:46 | | huntharo (~huntharo@207.179.68.222) has joined. |
| 2003-12-23 04:47 | huntharo | Hey guys. |
| 2003-12-23 04:47 | zakki | Mailer daemon said "Sorry, I've been told to reject your posts." |
| 2003-12-23 04:47 | | Hello |
| 2003-12-23 04:47 | huntharo | For cygwin-xfree? |
| 2003-12-23 04:48 | zakki | Yes |
| 2003-12-23 04:49 | huntharo | Hang on. I think I can fix that. |
| 2003-12-23 04:54 | | Are you sending from zakki@peppermint.jp? |
| 2003-12-23 04:54 | zakki | Yes |
| 2003-12-23 04:55 | huntharo | Send an empty message to global-allow-subscribe-zakki=peppermint.jp@cygwin.com |
| 2003-12-23 04:56 | | I checked if you were on the cygwin-xfree-allow or cygwin-xfree-deny lists... but you were not on either. I can't check the global-allow list, so trying to add yourself to it should give us some insight as to what is happening. |
| 2003-12-23 05:02 | zakki | I see |
| 2003-12-23 05:08 | huntharo | Anything happen? Have you tried sending your message again? |
| 2003-12-23 05:08 | zakki | I send mail to global-allow-subscribe-zakki=peppermint.jp@cygwin.com |
| 2003-12-23 05:09 | | That's only |
| 2003-12-23 05:14 | huntharo | You have not sent to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com yet? |
| 2003-12-23 05:15 | zakki | I send, but refused again |
| 2003-12-23 05:15 | huntharo | Okay, let me ask Chris for help. |
| 2003-12-23 05:16 | | Can you forward your error messages to my email address? |
| 2003-12-23 05:21 | zakki | Yes. I did. |
| 2003-12-23 05:22 | huntharo | Got it. Thanks. |
| 2003-12-23 05:22 | | Try sending to cygwin-xfree again. |
| 2003-12-23 05:25 | zakki | I got same error mail. |
| 2003-12-23 05:32 | huntharo | Huh. Okay. I sent a mail to Chris to see what is going on. |
| 2003-12-23 05:33 | zakki | Thank you |
| 2003-12-23 05:34 | huntharo | No problem. |
| 2003-12-23 05:35 | zakki | I wanted to send a small patch to Fergus's losing focus problem. |
| 2003-12-23 05:39 | | Simply it make winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed not to call BringWindowToTop. |
| 2003-12-23 05:55 | huntharo | I'm not sure if that is a good idea or not. Without it the window may always be in the background on startup, depending on the version of Windows being used. |
| 2003-12-23 05:55 | | Chris says that your problem is fixed now. |
| 2003-12-23 05:55 | | You should be able to mail the list again. |
| 2003-12-23 06:06 | | Oh, okay, I see the point now. Don't do it in multi-window mode only. That makes sense. |
| 2003-12-23 06:08 | zakki | Thank you I can send mail |
| 2003-12-23 07:13 | huntharo | zakki: I posted your change. |
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| 2003-12-23 22:03 | | zakki: Kensuke, I am going to get that repository setup later this week. Don't lose hope :) |
| 2003-12-23 22:03 | zakki | huntharo: Good morning |
| 2003-12-23 22:03 | huntharo | zakki: Good afternoon :) |
| 2003-12-23 22:03 | zakki | huntharo: for window manager? |
| 2003-12-23 22:03 | huntharo | zakki: Yes, for the window manager and for xwinclip. |
| 2003-12-23 22:04 | | zakki: I guess we should call it "cygwinx" |
| 2003-12-23 22:09 | zakki | huntharo: It sounds like good. |
| 2003-12-23 22:09 | huntharo | zakki: Okay. |
| 2003-12-23 22:10 | | zakki: Is there any reason to keep around the old integrated -multiwindow mode? Should it be pulled out of the code too? |
| 2003-12-23 22:11 | zakki | huntharo: no reason |
| 2003-12-23 22:12 | huntharo | zakki: Do you want to carefully remove it? |
| 2003-12-23 22:12 | | zakki: I don't want users to try to use the integrated window manager along with the new external window manager. That would cause problems. |
| 2003-12-23 22:12 | zakki | huntharo: Someone who use non multiwindow windormanager may need old -rootless mode |
| 2003-12-23 22:13 | huntharo | I thought that the new rootless mode could be used with any external window manager. Is that incorrect? |
| 2003-12-23 22:13 | zakki | Right |
| 2003-12-23 22:13 | huntharo | zakki: By the way, I thought you already removed the old -rootless mode. I am asking if we still need the -multiwindow mode. |
| 2003-12-23 22:15 | zakki | New rootless mode has problem on handling z-order |
| 2003-12-23 22:19 | | huntharo: I think we don't need -multiwindow mode. And need to add old rootless mode or to improve now rootless mode. |
| 2003-12-23 22:21 | huntharo | zakki: So the old rootless mode can do some things that the new rootless mode cannot? |
| 2003-12-23 22:21 | zakki | huntharo: I must disable windows's raise on click to support window manager like twm. |
| 2003-12-23 22:23 | | huntharo: If do so, I can't bring X's window to top once it became lower than other windows window |
| 2003-12-23 22:24 | huntharo | zakki: Heh heh... that shouldn't be too hard, right? Shouldn't you have a flag that indicates whether our external window manager has attached itself? In that case, you could check that flag to decide whether or not to perform the raising. |
| 2003-12-23 22:28 | zakki | huntharo: Yes, I have a flag. But if I think only about twm, I don't have perfect solution. |
| 2003-12-23 22:31 | huntharo | Oh, I see. |
| 2003-12-23 22:33 | zakki | huntharo: WM_WINDOWPOSCHANGING handler's #if 0 block is what I try to do. http://pdx.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/Attic/winwin32rootlesswndproc.c?rev=1.1.2.1&cvsroot=xorg&only_with_tag=CYGWIN&sortby=date&content-type=text/plain |
| 2003-12-23 22:35 | | huntharo: Maybe someone or I will fix this. But at least now I need old -rootless. |
| 2003-12-23 22:36 | huntharo | zakki: Interesting. |
| 2003-12-23 22:43 | | zakki: That won't be fun putting -rootless back in and taking -multiwindow out :) That was a mistake that I wish we could take back :) |
| 2003-12-23 23:14 | | zakki: Have you got an updated link for your latest window manager? I am thinking about importing the code tonight, in which case I want to make sure I have the latest version. |
| 2003-12-23 23:14 | zakki | huntharo: Not yet |
| 2003-12-23 23:15 | huntharo | zakki: Okay. I am heading home. Send me an email or an email to the mailing list with a link later tonight with the version that you want me to import. |
| 2003-12-23 23:15 | zakki | huntharo: OK. I rename to cygwinx and upload it |
| 2003-12-23 23:15 | huntharo | No no, no renames. |
| 2003-12-23 23:15 | | zakki: I was going to call the module cygwinx, so it would have been CVS/cygwinx/win32wm or some such. No need to rename anything. |
| 2003-12-23 23:17 | zakki | huntharo: Now it is hackedbox4win. I think it is bad |
| 2003-12-23 23:21 | huntharo | zakki: Yes, it needs a new name. Perhaps XWinWM ??? Make sure that there is credit in the code for the original authors and that their license is intact. |
| 2003-12-23 23:24 | zakki | huntharo: Hackedbox is GPL, and I don't delete copyright in source code. |
| 2003-12-23 23:24 | huntharo | zakki: Right. Perhaps we should add a README note or something though that says where the code originated from. |
| 2003-12-23 23:26 | | zakki: I have to drive home now. I will be back on later in the day. |
| 2003-12-23 23:26 | zakki | huntharo: I sent mail to current hacker Larry Owen, but no response. |
| 2003-12-23 23:27 | huntharo | zakki: Okay. I just want to add a note that says, "based on the source code from hackedbox". That way people don't see it and think that we took their code without credit. It is unlikely to happen, but we should add a short note saying so. |
| 2003-12-23 23:27 | zakki | huntharo: I haven't writen document yet. Writing english document is hard to me :) |
| 2003-12-23 23:27 | | huntharo: OK |
| 2003-12-23 23:27 | huntharo | zakki: Okay. I can do it for you. Don't worry about it. |
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| 2003-12-24 22:16 | | zakki: you there? I have a question |
| 2003-12-24 22:18 | | zakki, ago1024: Do you know where win32rootless.c is supposed to find windowswmstr.h? |
| 2003-12-24 22:57 | | Nevermind. I fund it in xc/lib/windows |
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| 2003-12-25 01:12 | | zakki, ago1024: Merry Christmas guys! |
| 2003-12-25 01:12 | zakki | huntharo, ago1024: Merry Christmas. |
| 2003-12-25 01:12 | huntharo | zakki: Thanks |
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| 2003-12-25 13:31 | ago | zakki: Thank you and best wishes from me too
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| 2003-12-26 02:04 | mrMister | hey guys :) |
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| 2003-12-27 13:20 | | you are an op here |
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| 2003-12-27 23:11 | huntharo | zakki, ago1024: What do you think of the updated web site? http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ |
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| 2003-12-27 23:19 | nakee | hey |
| 2003-12-27 23:19 | huntharo | nakee: Hi |
| 2003-12-27 23:20 | nakee | did you by any chance checked the composite patch (the one for making the new composite extention work with xfree's server) |
| 2003-12-27 23:20 | | ? |
| 2003-12-27 23:21 | huntharo | nakee: Nope. I haven't been following it. |
| 2003-12-27 23:25 | nakee | oh, are you planning to use the new extentions or are you just working on making the tree compile with fd.o's libs? |
| 2003-12-27 23:32 | huntharo | nakee: I haven't been working on much of anything :( I have to go eat dinner now. Be back later. |
| 2003-12-27 23:36 | nakee | bon apotit:) |
| 2003-12-28 00:28 | zakki | huntharo: Good, but To-Do List is out of date. |
| 2003-12-28 00:28 | huntharo | zakki: Yes, the To-Do List is out of date. |
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